I Hate Spain – Why I Hate Living in Spain & I’m Leaving

By Nick Anders, disillusioned expat in Spain.

Thinking of living in Spain?

Maybe hate is too strong a word but ok then I dislike Spain, I’ve had enough, get me out of here – whatever your choice, the end result is the same. I’m leaving Spain to go back to the UK.

I’m not the only one who now hates Spain. It’s a bit like the thin line between love and hate.

I moved to Spain four years ago to start a new life and at first I loved it but now I hate Spain and can’t wait to get out.

So you want to know what it is like living in Spain? Here goes!

There are lots of downsides to living in Spain and I just didn’t know about these when I moved to Spain.

I’ll tell you why living in Spain is bad, I’ll list the problems and give you insights into the biggest mistakes expats make.

I’ve been living in Nerja which is a coastal town with nice sandy beach on the Costa del Sol of Spain, I won’t bore you with my tales of woe but I wanted to write this to let off some steam but also to warn anyone thinking of moving to Spain to be very careful.

At least move to Spain with your eyes wide open – aware of all the negatives about living in Spain.

An expats life in Spain can be really hard, a constant struggle, make sure you are prepared for all of this because you haven’t seen anything like this on A Place In The Sun and nobody involved in the property/estate agent business will ever warn you of the downsides and disadvantages to moving and living in Spain.

Reasons I Now Hate Spain and Want To Move Back to the UK

Crime in Spain

I felt safe in Spain when I first emigrated and moved here. I didn’t see any crime, people were friendly, I thought crime hardly existed here.

Until I found out that often when people are burgled in Spain they are bound and gagged.

The luckier ones are gassed. Even houses with dogs – and have you noticed how many people have big dogs – yeah now I get it – get hit because they poison the dogs.

No, I don’t like living in fear and I’m sure the recession will only increase crime in Spain.

Trouble is Spain is very close to some very poor African countries and there are lots of poor immigrants, mostly illegal, who will do anything to survive.

Living and Working in Spain

I moved to Spain for a better life. I hate how I now work harder in Spain than I ever did in the UK. I moved to Spain with savings of £15,000, now I have pretty much nothing but the shirt on my back.

I figured that with so many expats living in Spain that there must be a bundle of potential new business opportunities or companies looking for staff. I was so wrong!

I soon found out that jobs and opportunities in Spain were few and far between apart from the obvious ones.

Fact – I hate villa cleaning, I hate cleaning pools, I hate working in bars until 2 am waiting for the last drunken expat to leave, I hate building work in the baking midday sun. I hate Spain!

The Word Manana

Like everyone else, I thought this was a funny joke at first. Every time a person in Spain – whether Spanish or British let me down I would grin and say manana like it was ok or normal. When I’m paying for a job I want it done as promised – and on time – or am I mad for expecting this?

Customer Service in Spain

What I hate in Spain is when I go into a shop and stand waiting while the assistant chats away to their friend or relative totally ignoring me and everyone else.

In this global economy you just can’t see the Spanish having a chance against the likes of American, British or Indian companies who are hungry and put customer service first.

There is NO customer service in Spain. Much of the time you are served when people feel like it, you get little help and assistance and often you are not even greeted at the counter – you greet them. It is like you are doing them a favour by shopping there!

I hate getting anything done in Spain. Often I end up going to the local town hall and being sent from one department to another where I am told conflicting advice. The paperwork and bureaucracy are horrendous. If you are coming to live in Spain bring a photocopier!

Getting Ripped Off in Spain

I hate that people prey on each other in Spain. Everyone seems so desperate that getting cheated is a story every expat I know can tell. I personally put a €8,000 deposit down on an apartment and the estate agent did a runner with my cash. God knows where they are now but I won’t stop looking until I find them.

Other common expat stories are ones such as being sold a property that was actually illegal, didn’t have planning permissions etc and often the people had a Spanish lawyer so they were not cutting corners and they still have lost their life savings.

Corruption is a problem in Spain and often there are stories in the newspapers about local town hall officials being involved in shady/illegal deals. Anything and I mean anything, can happen in Spain.

When I first moved to Spain the currency was the Peseta. The cost of living in Spain was low as most food and drink was cheap compared to northern Europe. Then the Euro came in and it seemed everyone took the opportunity to raise their prices – typical – now I think it could actually be possible – no I’m sure it is – that Spain’s cost of living is now higher than the UK!

When I go back to the UK I notice sales, discounts. When I go shopping in Spain, despite a so-called recession I don’t see shops dropping the prices, I don’t see special offers, I don’t see much evidence of competition between retailers. In my local supermarket when food goes out of date they don’t slash the price, instead, it stays on the shelf and so you have to be careful what you are buying.

Poor Roads/Facilities in Spain

I hate the lack of infrastructure in Spain. The motorways/autoroutes are superb as a lot of EU money has been given to Spain but locally our roads are terrible. The amount of tyres we go through because of holes in the road is ridiculous.

There is no drainage so when it rains heavily places get flooded and roads are washed away. Areas that used to soak up the water have been built on due to pure greed. The councils just don’t seem to invest back into the community, instead the money collected from me in taxes is blown up – literally – by stunning firework displays that even Disney would be proud of.

I wish I had never moved to Spain and I urge anyone else thinking of Spain seriously to consider my story, especially any young families who I see writing on the expat forums about how they can’t wait to move to Spain, how they are fed up with life in the United Kingdom etc – you don’t realise how lucky you have it! Don’t even think of moving to Spain if you have no money – it is not the cheap place to live that it used to be – the cost of living in Spain continues to match UK levels.

What they don’t read about are the thousands of young families who have moved to Spain and who would love to move back to the UK, if they only could afford to as they have no money. Or the ones who have moved back already having realised their mistake in moving to Spain in the first place.

If you are thinking about selling up and moving to Spain then my advice is, if you really MUST try living in Spain then don’t sell your house in the UK, don’t burn all your bridges, try live in Spain for 6 months or 1 year by renting a house for that length of time. Then you can truly decide and you can move back to the UK or wherever you came from originally without ruining your life. Sorry to sound so negative! Adios!


Editor’s note – This article is a reader’s opinion of life in Spain, it is not shared by us but it does represent the thinking of many people who currently live in Spain or of those who have subsequently moved back to their home country.

We are always being asked, is it good to live in Spain? We do encourage you to carefully consider your decision in advance, living in Spain has both pros AND cons and you need to balance these out, judging what is most important TO YOU in life. Remember that many expats absolutely love living in Spain. Read some responses to Nick’s opinion below and in our comments section and please do share this article and like it on Facebook.

Before we get to some replies to Nick, we have a special section for those of you who still want to move to Spain and have not been put off so far! We get so many questions on where the best place is to move to so we cover some of the frequently asked questions for you below. Don’t worry, most people love Spain!


Where is the best place to live in Spain (for expats)?

We simply cannot give you one town or city and tell you that is the best place to live in Spain because it does depend on your criteria and your likes and dislikes. We will however be able to give you some definite suggestions based on these preferences in the different sections below in which we narrow down the categories and nationalities of expats seeking to live in Spain on a permanent basis. In short, we give you all the pitfalls, pros and cons of living in different areas of Spain.

Where do UK expats live in Spain?

First, make the obvious choice between living in areas full of expats (most are British) or for truly trying to integrate with the Spanish which usually means living away from the busy coasts. By busy we mean Costa del Sol, Costa Blanca and to a lesser extent also Costa Almeria, Murcia and Costa Brava. If you do wish to live by the sea we suggest northern Spanish regions such as Galicia and Asturias (Costa Verde) or Costa Tropical, Costa del Azahar and Costa de la Luz.

But really you want to be slightly inland. Prices drop as soon as you get into the countryside. Expats (especially the British) are few and far between and you will have to speak Spanish, the locals will appreciate any effort and will usually be patient to you. We like Extremadura, a beautiful ‘undiscovered’ region of Spain. Or how about some of the inland areas such as the Jalon Valley on the Costa Blanca where you can reach the coast in 20-30 minutes but still feel part of the ‘real’ Spain? On the Costa del Sol you have similar villages such as Frigiliana and Benahavis (although there are plenty of expats in both).

Be careful to think about getting older. As idyllic as a house in the countryside sounds, what about when you get older and maybe cannot drive? Public transport is often minimal in Spain. How far away is the nearest medical centre and supermarkets?

If you want to know the best places to live in Spain for British people or for expats then you want to be in areas that have international schools which attracts families. We suggest Costa Blanca towns such as Javea, Moraira or Calpe, all are beautiful with great beaches. Benidorm if you want cheap food and drink and nightlife. On the Costa del Sol you have Marbella, Malaga and Puerto Banus. The Costa del Sol is the wealthiest area attracting the rich and famous. The climate is the best of mainland Spain and you can even ski just two hours away at Sierra Nevada, perfect! The inland Andalucian towns and villages such as Ronda and Mijas Pueblo are very pretty.

What about the Balearic islands such as Ibiza, Mallorca and Menorca? They are lovely islands but you can get island fever where you want to get away and you feel enclosed. You will be in fairly near proximity to tourist resorts so the island will fill up in the summer months and potentially be overcrowded. We would prefer the mainland so we can jump in the car and explore different terrain and regions but that is our opinion.

What about the Canary islands of Gran Canaria, Tenerife and Lanzarote? Well similar to above but at least these island have a consistent temperature all year round. Even in summer they tend to be around 25 degrees Celsius and in winter only a little less with days in January mostly having temperatures in the early twenties. They are however much less green and scenic than the Balearic islands and much of mainland Spain.

Zoe Conlong wrote in to say: “I have lived in Spain for over 21 years. Inland is definitely the safest place to be, the infrastructure is superb, locals are friendly, schools are excellent, however, you must be prepared to learn the language and integrate! I live in Ontinyent, 40,000 inhabitants approx.”

Tony Burgess writes: “Brexit may scupper many Brits retirement plans.”

Peter Brian Gillon recommends: “Benejuzar Alicante, we have a place there, so underrated, must admit my wife and I wondered if we’d made the right decision at first, very few expats, not to be disrespectful but that’s what we wanted, now, not one regret, Spanish locals so friendly and accommodating, we laugh trying our Spanish and they, their English, such a beautiful place surrounded by orange groves and neighbouring farmer supplies our oranges free after every crop picked. Can’t wait to become a permanent resident there.”

What are the cheapest places to live in Spain?

If you need to get a job in Spain in order to survive, we have some bad news because you will have to live in the most expensive areas to live. Most jobs will be the major cities or in the populated Costas such as Costa del Sol and Costa Blanca. These are very developed areas filled with well-off foreigners and prices are usually higher than remote countryside areas with little English-speaking people.

If you are a retiree with a choice of living anywhere in Spain then you need to seriously look at the lowest cost of living. We have a whole page on where is the best place to retire in Spain. If you still want to live by the sea Spain has an awful lot of coastline so you can easily avoid the Costa del Sol, and Costa Blanca.

How about northern ‘green’ Spain such as Galicia which has wonderful cities such as Santiago de Compostela. It is however the wettest region of Spain but it is cheap for property and eating out. We also like the coastal cities of Santander and San Sebastian on the northern coast of Spain.

What are the best cities to move to in Spain?

If you are going to move to a city then surely you should live in the biggest busiest cities such as Madrid and Valencia in our opinion. The third biggest city is Valencia but that is like a small town when compared to the big two.

So which one?

Reasons to move to and live in Madrid would be the culture as it has three major art museums and the nightlife is vibrant. The capital city can, however, be freezing in winter and baking hot in August when most residents leave for the coast, which is a long-distance away.

Our choice for the best city to live in Spain would be Barcelona because it is as big as Madrid but it has more tourist attractions and arguably a more mixed and vibrant expat scene. It is literally by the beach and close to mountains (the Pyrenees) for skiing.

Living in Spain in the Winter

For many people, particularly pensioners, Spain is the ideal place to choose when looking to escape the nippy UK winters. It is arguable that the Canary Islands are the best destination to spend your time in given that they’re located so much further South than Spain’s mainland. If lucky, the coldest months of the year can get up to 20 or 21 degrees Celsius, whereas if you choose to spend your time living in for example Madrid, you’d be dealing with cold 10-12 temperature degrees at best. If you were set on choosing to retire or move to the mainland, the Costa del Sol coast is the way to go; you’d be enjoying 14-15 degree warm weather making sightseeing during the winter completely do-able while also benefiting from the smaller crowds.

Living in Spain during the winter doesn’t require a far-fetched budget. When looking for affordability as well as the ideal temperature, Malaga has the best of both worlds. Being in Andalusia, its temperature is pleasant all year around and long term rentals are absolutely reasonable. Malaga offers culture such as the famous Picasso museum, beautiful beaches and the close proximity of so many other amazing Costa del Sol destinations one can enjoy on a day out.

As mentioned previously, the Canary Islands attract many with its fantastic weather. As a result of lots of competition, long term rentals and lets on the islands are very affordable. The best and most cost-effective of the islands are Tenerife and Gran Canaria. Due to their popularity, airlines have even increased their number of flights for Britons going out to the islands, which makes getting out there easier and cheaper as well.

What are the best places to live in Spain for Americans?

We have pretty much answered the question in the section above because the two biggest cities of Madrid and Barcelona have the largest American populations in Spain and many large multinational companies have headquarters or offices here which is ideal for getting work in Spain when you speak little Spanish.

Response From Silvia as a Spanish Expat in the UK!

I’d like to give my point of view as a Spanish expat in UK.

The problem comes when you move to another country without enough information about the place. When I came to UK I spent months searching information about the country and its people. Because I really wanted to fit in. And I think a lot of British don’t do that when they move out to Spain. They spent their holidays in Spain and they think they know the country. I had been in London before but I knew that it wasn’t the same. The life as a tourist is totally different than the life as a citizen.

And, to be honest, after all this time I don’t know where I prefer to live. There are bad and good thing in both countries. But I want to focus in what you said in your post.

Jobs:

– Spain: Really?? Didn’t you speak with a Spanish person before you moved to Spain?? Any Spanish had told you about the problems we have in Spain with this. And it’s not only about find a job, it’s when you get one what conditions you’re going to have: low salary, a lot of extra unpaid hours, asshole managers….

– UK: I’m graduated and I have several experience years in my sector but I was working for 2 years making sandwiches why?? Because my English wasn’t good enough. And when it improved, it took a lot of time to have a better job, because I had experience but not in UK. So I had (and I still have) to fight for my opportunity. Because I have to prove I’m a better option than a native or someone from another place. I have to fight against the topic “Spanish are lazy people thinking in anything but take siestas and eat paella”

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I worked more hours here than in Spain. 56 hours is just illegal in Spain…. the good thing is: UK they pay every single hour you work.

A bad thing in UK is when you get sick, for example. They don’t pay you, even if you had an accident at work and you’re sick or injured because of it.

I remember I had to work having a terrible flu because I couldn’t afford stay at home. Another time I cut my finger so deeply with a knife at work and I had to keep working bleeding!!! Do you know how dangerous is that a sick person makes sandwiches for customers? But I, as many other people, had to do it because we have to pay our rent.

Crime:

– Spain: It’s true, the crime in Spain increased lately because of the crisis. You have to watch your belongings because of the pickpockets. And obviously, when you’re going to pay for something (as a deposit) you have to be sure you are giving the money to a formal agency. Scammers are in all the countries. But usually Spain is safe as the statistics say. We have a lot of police patrolling the streets.

– UK: One thing that surprised me about UK it’s that the windows of houses don’t have grilles; the doors are made with wood and glass, easy to kick and open. At first I thought it was because it was safer here, people aren’t going to get in your house and steal your staff. But not….that wasn’t the true. Your can be stolen at any time. Actually, there were 3 burglaries in my building in a year. And you could think “London is a place with a large amount of immigration, maybe that’s the reason”. Well, I have to say that the police caught the thieves, and 2 of the 3 occasions, they were English.

About the police, I don’t see them, they don’t patrol the street. They come up when something happens, but they’re not watching that nothing happen really. So I can see a lot of young people offering weed in every corner of the high street. And the fights in the street are something normal every single weekend….

Mañana:

– Spain: I really don’t believe someone doesn’t make the job you’re paying for. I just don’t believe it….In Spain there is something called: “consumo”. If you paid for something and you don’t receive it you have to go to consumo and they’ll fix it. Companies and self-employed don’t want a penalty from consumo, that’s for sure.

– UK: In UK, I worked in something related with construction, remodelling houses. You can’t imagine how many times I saw a work unfinished or wrong done when the customer paid a lot of money for it, and he just didn’t have what he paid. And you cannot do anything, because in this country “consumo” doesn’t exist. So if you want your money back you have to take that people to the court and spend a lot of money, and that is so unfair.
Another example, recently I moved to another house, and I was shaking because I remember how hard is here to get your internet supply. And I wasn’t wrong. I need internet for work, I contracted one of the most expensive internet providers and the instalation of optic fibre for that company was already done in this house. Well….It took for them 1 month to come to my house to plug the router. According to them this was something only its staff could do, so they weren’t going to send me the router to plug it for myself. The real reason was it charges me 10 pounds for the technical’s visit and they told me it was an offer because normally it was 40 pounds…..come on….

Customer service:

– Spain: that’s true, customer service in Spain sucks. It seems like they are making you a favour….and it’s something I hate form Spain. Companies don’t care about his employees, they pay a low salary, employees work a lot of hours, some of them unpaid, and this has repercussions in customer services. It’s a pity.

– UK: Normally, at least in London, the customer service is good. Except for GP and hospital receptionist; doctors and nurses are really charming but the staff in the reception 90% of times are rude and impatient.

Getting ripped off:

– Spain: The thing is I can’t speak about this in Spain, I don’t have any experience and I don’t know anyone that was in that situation, even my foreign friends. Maybe because I know the country and the language and it’s difficult for them try to rip me off. I don’t doubt that this happen as everywhere.

– UK: As in Spain I don’t have the experience to be ripped off in UK, but I know some people who do. They were cheated when they were trying to rent a flat or a room. And this is something so usual in London. I read about that before I came here and it’s for that I’m very careful when I want to rent something.
They main problem here are the landlord, you can be very careful but if you have a bad landlord it’s difficult to do something. And I lived and I heard terrified stories about some landlord and their houses.

Poor road/facilities.

– Spain: In this point, I totally disagree with you. I’ve driven in both countries and in many areas of them, and I have to say that Spanish road have a high quality if you compare them with France ones or England ones. Obviously, you live in a village, you can’t expect the same road in Madrid (6 million hab.) with Nerja (21.000 hab). Some local road to connect villages to each other or a village with a main motorway could be worst. But the government just cannot invest in the best road for every single village in Spain, it’s just impossible; it’s a big country with a lot of small villages. I’ve travelled through Europe and I have seen lots of villages with dirt roads instead of highways and that it doesn’t happen in Spain, even in the smallest village in the middle of a mountain…

About the floods, that is something so difficult to fix because of the ground. That area is not used to getting so much water suddenly, and when it happens the ground can’t take it, even if it has the best sewage system. Something like that happened some weeks ago in Paris, so imagine in a village. But it doesn’t happen in the north of Spain for instance, because the ground used to get lots of water as in England.

– UK: Do you know how many council tax I pay in London? Like 5 times what I used to pay in Spain. Apparently it’s not enough to fix the streets. Every single tile in my street is not in its place, so I see every day people fall in the street because of this. The streetlight in front of my house is broken for 4 months, I’ve called 3 times to the council and it’s still broken.
The sign indicating the name of the street, two streets away from mine, fell down a month ago and god knows when they’re going to fix it.
And a special mention to the rubbish truck, which comes once every 2 weeks to take the rubbish. I know this country is not hot and the rubbish doesn’t smell as it does in hot countries but it brings rats and the foxes are fighting for the rubbish every night. And I’ll say the price we pay for the rubbish collection is far to be cheap.
One good point, public transport is expensive but it works so well and I love it.

I don’t want to compare both countries, because it doesn’t make sense. They are just different, if you want to live in one of them you have to assume the change and be part of the community.

I love my country and I think Spain have something special that everybody likes and I love England and I see special thing here as well.

I know some Spanish and Italian people here and they always say “I want to go back to Spain/Italy”, and I don’t have that feeling. When I’m here in UK I miss Spain, the weather, my people, my food. And when I go to Spain, at first I’m happy, but then after a couple of days, I start to feel sad because I miss UK, I realized I miss the same things: the people, the food, even I miss the language.

The point is, my friends want to go back because they didn’t want to be part of the English culture, so they are fighting every day to keep their culture, to not change anything. They idealize their countries and forget why they decided to leave it. And when they finally return, most of them realise it’s not what they thought.

Is Spain a Good or Bad Place to Live? Shirley Loves Living in Spain!

Many people ask what are some of the best things about living in Spain?

Below we have a response to the ‘I Hate Spain’ article from Shirley who has a house in Ontinyent:

“After reading your article from Nick from Nerja, I would expect that you received many emails in reply.

I realise that life has become more difficult for many during this recession, and Britain is no different from Spain. I don’t know when Nick was in the UK last, but around half the shops in our town in South Wales have closed down, and many families are struggling to get by after being made redundant. I work as an estate agent, and we are getting several repossessions every week and house prices are not increasing, as a lot of people believe.

I wonder if Nick learned to speak Spanish before he moved out to Spain, as I would imagine it is quite difficult to get work anywhere that you don’t speak the language. He didn’t say what work he did in the UK or in Spain.

I have been learning Spanish for a few years now and wouldn’t expect to get work in Spain, other than by working for Brits, doing things like cleaning apartments and pools. How would a Spaniard fare in Britain getting work if he didn’t speak English?

I feel that the Costa del Sol is probably a much different place to live than the Costa Blanca in many ways and I’m not sure Nick is qualified to comment on the Costa Blanca uncovered newsletter! One of the reasons we avoided the South of Spain was that it’s closer to Africa and has more crime. I wonder how much research Nick did before choosing an area to live in Spain.

We don’t know any Brits in our area, although we don’t live there, and I don’t kid myself that we could move out and make a good living, certainly not in this economic climate. I also think that moving out with just 15k savings is a very risky thing to do!

We have had no bad experiences of being cheated by anyone, and have made some wonderful friends. I am always happy with the service I get in local shops and restaurants, although I do agree that certain things are more complicated, like dealing with the council etc.

But then there is no litter in our town, no discarded chewing gum stuck all over the pavements, and NO drunken louts fighting in town on a Saturday night out. My 21 year old daughter was recently assaulted on a night out in our home town in Wales, and head-butted in the face, by a complete stranger, another girl, completely unprovoked while walking down the street with some friends.

As for Manana, when we went to buy some air conditioning in July from a small retailers, they turned up, as agreed, the following day, and worked until late until the job was finished, which wasn’t what we expected after all the stories we heard!

We recently had a problem with our internet in the UK, and were told by our supplier that we needed a new modem, would arrange an appointment for their technician to call to replace it. We asked if they could send a replacement by post but were told no. They couldn’t give a specific time, but booked a morning appointment between 8am and 12 noon.

My partner took a morning off work to be there. No one turned up, and when he rang them, they said that there had been a fault in our area at the time of our complaint, so they had cancelled the appointment (without bothering to tell us!) When he pointed out that it still wasn’t working, they said they would send us a new one, which was what we originally asked for but were refused!

I might also mention that our fuel bills at present are £60 a month for electricity, £80 a month for gas (due to increase again soon), and £45 a month for water. My council tax bill here £120 a month compared to 189 euros a YEAR in Spain.”

Regards

Shirley

Linda Whitehead is Also Moving Back to the UK…

“Hello, I am just commenting on the above writer’s online report on his life in Spain. I think he is so correct and it is not at all uncommon among expats. Here are some of the worst things about living in Spain…

I myself had once dreamed about sunny Spain and couldn’t believe it when my mum who already lived there told me its difficult to get jobs. Which is even worse now what with the recession.

Us Brits generally get the feeling that the Spanish do not want us here. Very often we hear them calling foreigners ‘Giddies’ and push through in the supermarkets.

Like so many people from the UK, I was bored of the climate back home and wanted something exciting. I didn’t want to hear negative stories of Spain back then. But now I appreciate what the UK has to offer. It may not have the climate but it is a country that can stand on its own two feet, economically. It has politically correctness and is generally more of a ‘forward’ thinking country than Spain.

Needless to say, I am going back home to England for good this summer and it can’t come quick enough.

Thanks for listening – Adios Espana.”

Reasons Not to Live in Spain by Rachel…

I have been living in Spain for 8 years, within the first 9 months of living here our house was robbed we had a Doberman at the time they threw tiles at him and kept him at bay with a pitch fork.

They do call us “guiris” but we call them “spiks” and we are a easy target to be ripped off. They think that the girls are all drunken slags and a easy lay and English men do nothing but cause trouble>

They believe we eat fried eggs, bacon and sausages for breakfast everyday and they swear down that our food is crap,

We also got ripped off by the estate agents and lawyers being over-charged on the house price, deeds being lost and being charged twice for the same thing, then she buggered off to get a boob job and we never saw her again.

Electric bill is around 100 Euros a month and sometimes can reach 160 a month to “Shirley Who Does NOT hate Spain!”

I speak fluent Spanish and I have no English friends in Spain, I moved to a small Spanish town with my parents when I was 20, my parents even call me a plastic spik because my outlook on life and the way I live is not that of a English person, I have no job, there is no work at all, there are no opportunities to climb any ladder within any company in Spain…

Most Spanish have moved out of Spain. The only good thing about knowing Spanish is that they know they can’t rip you off… that you have been here for a while and you have some contacts up your sleeves, but then again it’s not only the Spanish that rip you off, it is the English who rip each other off which is even worse.

The customer service in Spain is non-existent. When I was younger in the UK I did a NVQ in customer service and I found it very hard at first to adapt to the way you are treated here and I still find it frustrating.

It was only two days ago I was forced to turn around and say to the shop assistant “Can you chat to your little mate after and serve me I’ve got things to do!” and the other thing that Spanish don’t know what to do is queue in the correct manner.

They are all over the place, you have to guess who is last or they will tell you if they think your pushing in, they don’t open doors, most of the time you can see a mother with a pram struggling to get in or out of a door and they just stand and stare. Or if you do help them you get no thank you for it.

It is hard to adapt to a culture that isn’t familiar to that of your own. As the years have passed I have adapted in a way to not take any notice to these faults which in my eyes they are faults, but to a Spanish person they are not, it’s just the way they are. The town hall are time wasting, table humping thieving pen pushers.

Jay is Also Depressed in Spain

Nick Anders & Linda & Rachel you are spot on, I have lived in Spain since 2007 on and off and then permanently since 2009. We bought a place in Costa del Sol and since left that to rent another, as crime scary and was a bit remote and felt unsafe.

We had the bogus forceful gas men trying to gain entry to rip us off, etc etc so we rented to be nearer people and feel somewhat safer, I agree with Nick, just today as every day, in shops the Spanish seem to chatter to their colleagues, not even look at you, while you stand with your shopping, they do it to other Spanish too though not just us Guirres.

Spanish are nice though, if you can speak some Spanish it does make a difference, but everything is such hard work, everything is done the slowest, longest, way possible, costing time and money, no wonder it is in a state, not saying other countries are any better, I can’t say, but what Nick, Linda and Rachel put is so spot on!

It’s not a bed of roses, it’s a flaming headache at times, new laws all the time, anyway they can get money out of you they will, I am told today if you drive a Spanish car and have a UK licence you are fined?? A solicitor here, a UK chap, told my son, apparently you need a medical and have to apply for a Spanish licence and if checked you could pay a fine and if you don’t have the cash you can be frog marched to the cash point.

It’s all stuff like this all the time, you get to a point you can’t be bothered to go out in the car as you don’t know what’s going on next.

It was also my dream to move here and I have never been so lonely in all my life, I am so depressed and I try and snap out of it and it just doesn’t get better, it’s hard to make new friends unless you go to bars every night and drink like a fish and I just don’t want to do that, so it’s a dismal existence…

Sammy From Murcia Writes In…

I can see both Nick and Shirly’s point of view, but I’m afraid I have to agree with Nick on this one, Spain is going downhill and fast, much faster than England, I know the recession has hit both countries badly but there is no doubt that it has really taken it’s toll on Spain.

I live in Murcia and have done for 10 years with my parents and younger brother. I’m 20  almost 21 and my brother is 19 we both went to school here as children at the ages of  10 and 11 and both speak Spanish fluently now most people think that I am Spanish unless I inform them otherwise.

It took me 3 years to speak fluent Spanish and in this time I was bullied badly by the Spanish just for being British, they would shout guiri as I walked by and insult me and tell me to go back to my own country, my brother had a hard time coping with this and disliked school so much that he dropped out early. I stuck it out and left at 18, got a job as a teacher in the city teaching English at an academy.

Not bad, my employer is English too. What I didn’t know is whether you speak Spanish or not, makes no difference once you apply for a job working with Spanish people and they see your documentation and discover you are actually English, the job is then passed to anyone else providing they are Spanish.

Being almost Spanish , having lived here 10 years i will always be a foreigner to them, no matter how good my Spanish and how Spanish I may look, the job will always be given to Spanish first.

So I studied my whole teenage years (with a few English friends at school who later left as they didn’t like living here and being classed as a foreigner and picked on constantly, while their parents struggled to find work to keep them going)

I find myself alone most nights in or at work with the few friends I have their, who are English as the Spanish don’t tend to mix with the English too much not unless you are willing to pretend to be Spanish, dress like them, eat their food, socialize only with Spanish, then they might accept you more or less, but never completely.

My parents have both struggled for work, since we arrived here my dad is a builder and my mum worked in England as a secretary to a doctor, here we have tried cleaning jobs, private teaching in my area for little money and unreliable students who do not even bother to ring when they decide not to even show up most days.

There is no doubt about it, if you are deciding to move to Spain, DO NOT EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN HERE. The bullying drove most of my friends into a depression and breakdown before leaving. I have to say it was not an easy time, the only time it improved was when I was fluent in Spanish then my classmates would actually acknowledge me, yet I was still the outsider, and was always treated as “dumb” or a “stupid english guiri” or as they like to say extranjera.

If you move to Spain and have young children be prepared for all of this as it will be a very very difficult time for your kids no matter what age they start school they will more than likely be bullied.

At the end of the day Spain is a lovely country with the sun and the laid back way of life, but once you scratch the surface, it is a holiday resort , that puts their own people first regardless of what any other person may have to offer, and life is definitely a lot more tougher than England here.

But hey, it’s been an experience, mostly bad times but some good, I’ m off to England soon to try and finally fit in!

Also may I add we came to Spain with A LOT of money,  and all of it has now gone. The Spanish should be grateful for the amount of English people that plowed their money into their economy. But no …

And Shirley, what is your plan, to stay in Spain and retire possibly  without a pension ? or survive on little money? Who will look after you in your old age?  What happens if the Euro crashes?

All I can say is good luck Shirley..

And I have read the other messages and am glad that you all agree more or less that Spain is not the place to be..

I Hate Spain Page Summary: This page features the story of Nick Anders who has become fed up and unhappy living in Spain and intends to return back to the UK. Nick’s story is good reading for anyone thinking of moving to Spain.

We love living in Spain ourselves but we have agreed to post his article in the interests of fairness as most of his points have a degree of truth in them and at least they provide an antidote to the people who have a vested interest in telling you that moving to Spain is a bed of roses.

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  1. Barbara Murphy says

    Nick, I laughed so much. Hilarious.

    • Basque_Spaniard says

      Well, as an Spaniard, Spain is a country of differences. Many expats think that spain is like a paradise of beaches, parties and bullfighting and is far from that.
      Andalusia is a tourist region with only agriculture as her principal profit. This primary sector attracts many migrants for easy job. So, is normal, to be poorest region fulled of migrants. Only a few can achieve a good job and you must have a good CV. So many jobs as a waiter or even a fisherman. So in other word its an unstable region. In the building boom. many rich andalusian achieved a big profits but nowadays is far from that. Poor education, poor economy, high taxes or even many drug dealers.
      On the other side, Basque country, an industrial region called the small germany. Is the engineers paradise.
      If you want holidays, go to andalusia or to the mediterranean coast. But if you want a job go to madrid or even basque country.
      I have lived in UK, and is true, the main reason to move is the job. However, the social life is very poor and have more migrants than in Spain. Many Spaniards there said me why you prefer to go back to Spain having a job here and I said them, I couldnt live always sad and bored. I said to the manager, thanks for the opportunity to give me but I cannot integrate here, even he tried to change my job. I booked my flight back home before even if I have a chance to continue.

  2. A nicer, kinder people than the Spanish would be impossible to find. As usual, the people bleating about how bad it is here are those who probably expected/wanted to find little England in the sun. For the most part, they never learn Spanish and expect everyone to speak English. How can one ever fit into a country/culture without learning the language? Best thing that can happen is if all the unhappy English go back to where they came from and whinge from there.

  3. Suzanne Andrew says

    With regard to the original story by Nick Anders we lived in Benalmadena for 25 yrs and we have been through everything he says and more would a bank in the UK dare take all your money from your account (72,000 pts) and buy shares in the bank and then be told because you had no money left in your account to bring more from Engand when you live here and told that because there was no money in the account to pay the mortgage pay when you have some money but we will add the 20% for late payment. Needless to say all the staff in the bank were put in jail as they made a mistake and did it to a Spaniard who reported them it took us 6 mths to get any money back and the list goes on and on. Enough is enough and we came back to England last year for good.

  4. Chris Hoffland says

    We loved our 8 years living in the San Fulgencio area, had no idea that the Spanish may have resented us being amongst them. Met many lovely people of all nationalities, including Spanish funnily, and seemed to get on well with everyone. Was advised that, in supermarkets as an example, the customer in front of the staff member was important, they could chat for as long as they wished and to show any impatience would be considered extremely rude. We were happy to accept that some people wanted to chat, and a few minutes delay here and there was not going to spoil our day. But we’re relaxed types!! Loved Spain and the Spanish we were introduced to. And all the interesting people from around Europe who had settled in the area. Fabulous times.

  5. Hello.

    To me, it’s quite easy. I don’t live where I don’t like it. I’ve been living in England, then in Ireland, and I live in Spain now. No place is perfect, but I never spoke rubbish of nowhere or their people no matter how hard it was for me.

    Show some respect and stop generalising. I have been ripped off in Ireland and not because of that should I consider Ireland a shitty country with plenty of crime. I wouldn’t be telling the truth.

    Oh, and this is important. Spanish people try reaaaally hard speaking English (some better than others) whenever we visit English-speaking countries. But when most (not everybody, luckily) of the european Enslish native speakers come to Spain, they don’t even try! Why? Just because English language is the official language and your empire is SUPREME, don’t make you superior enough to assume that we have to learn English “to make your stay better”. I’ve been to villages where there are only british native people who reject Spanish language and everything that has to do with Spain, actually. Not a single Spaniard! Absolute English communities where people do not want to socialise with Spain, consequently, not being able to say a word in Spanish in YEARS, and going to restaurants and markets expecting to be served and assisted kindly and politely in a language that IS NOT OURS. And that is rude. Does it make you all UK people the same? … No, right? Ok, let’s keep reading.

    By the way, STUPIDITY IS EVERYWHERE, not only in Spain. I think this “bully article” is just a response to your lack of previous research, blaming on everyone else (Spaniards, especially). If you don’t like it here, just take some action, make some changes and stop spreading your filthy word. There are good Spanish people everywhere, and people with different ideologies all over the world. I don’t think it is the same living in Central London, Brighton, Nothingham, or damn Lambeth! Come on. Stop it with so much hypocrisy!! Nobody in the world is born to wipe off your non-conformism. Our culture defines us, defines every one of us. So, nothing makes you better or worse, neither coming from one country or another. In fact, we Spanish people also suffer the wrong side of the Spanish central management and burocracy, but it doesn’t mean we’re happy about it. There’s nothing we can do, to be honest.

    So yeah, a lot of things are bad and wrong here. But hey, you’re free human beings. Free to come and go and move to whichever place makes you feel like happy kings and queens. But do not dare to come here to talk cheap if you are not making, or trying to make, things better like many of us are.

    I don’t know who told you in UK that Spain is paradise, which it isn’t. Come on! You come here if it’s cheap and easy. When it isn’t, then Spain is rubbish. Right? Anyway… Still, I believe that there are so many of you who are good, educated and polite people and who, at least, know what respect is.

    Spain is Spain. UK is UK. Just remember yourself/ves Spain was not born or created to make your life easier, dear supreme beings. You’re paying now for what you believed about this “Promised Land”. If you want a perfect, cheap, sunny, easy, rich, safe, beautiful country with beautiful people, then (like Gulliver in Gulliver’s Travels) you might as well keep dreaming or start leaving Planet Earth, far from Yahoos and unworthy places to live.

  6. Well, british, especially the english, now with Brexit you have more reasons to return to your gray and cold island.

  7. It’s shocking how jealous, petty, and passive-aggressive the women are. Here in Catalunya (but also just about everywhere, frankly), they’re very plain (no makeup or jewelry the majority of the time) and they HATE any woman who stands out. Instead of enjoying themselves and making themselves attractive, they’re miserable, they don’t trust their cheating, entitled, spoiled men, and they’re disgusting (in a spineless, passive-aggressive way of course) with other women. Just pathetic. If you’re a straight white man, then by all means, come to this country!

  8. What utter & complete rubbish these people above have written about living in Spain.
    I have been here for 20plus years & mainly have Spanish friends, yes I have integrated & been accepted by the Spanish. I am obviously British & yet they treat as one of their own. I live in Alicante (the city) & have never had any problems with crime & never had a single instance where somebody has tried to cheat me. Yes the
    Spanish do have their own way of doing things in their own country, why shouldn’t they & yes the council are slow & the paperwork is a pain, but it is a pain for the Spanish too so they are not doing it to you because you are a Brit. They do it to everybody.
    I also know many Brits here that have no problems of the kind described by others above. We all just get on & do our jobs, shopping & living a normal life. I can only reason that these unhappy Brits have some defect that they carry with them wherever they go because nothing I read relates to the experience I & my British & other North European friends here have had. We all have Spanish friends that treat us with respect. If I have a problem I pick up the phone & can guarantee I will get help from Spanish friends now, not tomorrow & no excuses about being busy. They will help without question. I am not British to them, I am just me.
    I do not recognise what these moaners are talking about, it is not the country I live in & the (Spanish) people they describe are not the (Spanish) people I know.
    I can only reason these Brits would fail to fit in wherever they went because they carry their failings with them & blame others for their own inadequacies.

  9. Having lived and worked around the globe, I think Spain is, without doubt, the best place I have ever lived. After 9 years here, all I can say is – warm friendly people, great cost of living, very low crime rate, lovely food, fabulous summers (OK, winters aren’t great) all combine to make this a wonderful place. Sadly, there are some English who just have to talk down everyone and everything in the world that isn’t English. They are an embarrassment to themselves and their country and the sooner they go back to where they are comfortable being, the better for everyone.

  10. KD Punshon says

    Come on people, enough of the insults! I have lived in the UK, Spain and Canada. There are pros and cons to every country. There are good and bad people everywhere. Let’s try not to be insulting to each other.

  11. gillian Hewitt says

    Oh dear! Some painful and sad stories here…My Spanish story started a lot earlier than most of these posts in 1979, when my Mum bought an holiday home near Benalmadena Pueblo. I fell in love with Andalucia at an early age, and still love Spain dearly. I spent a lot of time there over the years, but I have never lived there. The truth is, it is not our country, and no matter how well you speak Spanish, how integrated you are, and how many Spanish friends you may have….you never will be one of them. I totally agree that everyone is out to rip you off, but in my experience, this was done to me by other expats, desperate to make a buck, because they live from hand to mouth, not by the Spanish. I sold my Mum’s house in May last year, quite a decision after all those years…I still have friends in Spain, and I plan to spend at least a month in Spain each year for the forseeable future, but I would never wish to liver there permanently. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way what a great country Britain is… but there is a lot of illusion attached to moving somewhere else.

  12. The problem is that most of the English people that live in Spain are the scum of the UK that cant even afford getting a house in their own country and they go there thinking that they are going to live the dream.
    If the UK is so wonderful why are they moving out? Terrible food, low wages, expensive properties, NHS if you can call it NHS, no motorways…and the national sport (claiming benefits)

  13. I’m absolutely shocked by all the comments of the British who hate living in Spain. I lived in England for two years and it was a period enough to know the country. Let me tell you, that the truth is that I was afraid of speaking Spanish outdoors. You’ve become a racist county and your are proud of it. Your NHS is just a joke, very slow service for everything, it is funny the fact that if you go to buy medicines you have to wait until they are “ready“. Very slow country. And very slow wifi. I did my best to speak understandable English, and I always had the same rude faces doing no effort to make things easy for foreigns. Weather… I think everybody knows this part of the story. During the time I was living there I couldn’t have a bank account even though I was working. I don’t like to generalize but I found rude people everywhere, and hypocrisy is your identity. I drove through small roads where if two cars tried to pass at the same time they were stuck, it was a nightmare. And I was just twenty minutes away from London, not rural areas or isolated England village. I remember once that I was reading the news and I came across with an article making jokes about how rude are Spaniards, luckily for me, the same week there was a big scandal of a gentleman club where the women were told to wear skimpy black outfits with matching underwear and high heels. Fighting for women’s rights, isn’t it? I mean come on, you should first look at you, with your racist, homophobic and sexist traditions that you love to keep alive. We are just the same, same problems in both countries. But at least we first look at us before open our big condescending mouth. At least the Spaniards tried to learn the language, culture, to make local friends… Just the things you should try when you are an expat. I live in Alicante (my hometown) and it is full of British people, with British karaoke’s bars, British supermarkets and British clubs. For New Year’s eve we like to go to an Irish pub (full of brits), good atmosphere and good English music. This time my aunt ask for one song in Spanish, and the ”DJ” with his British red face was extremely rude. You don’t like Spain, you love England and you are proud of your country, if you cannot find anything better, why you still here? We are run out of parking spaces.

    • Paul Colclough says

      Bravo, Excellent reply! I am British and I am ashamed of our culture and how brits “expect” everyone to speak English in a foreign country! I would like to move to Spain, but I want to learn the language, I want to mingle with locals I want a normal job.. Is it possible? maybe a dream but I don’t want to be a typical brit abroad!

      • Unless you are pretty gifted, you would be much better moving here and learning here. Going to classes is a bit of a waste of time and money. I speak fluent French and Spanish and never went to a single class in my life. Forget your “Britishness”. Jump in and start speaking it. You will be amazed how quickly you start to have conversation. Unlike Brits, the locals don’t make fun of people trying to learn their language. They take it as a compliment and help whenever they can. If you are really dedicated, you can be chatting to the locals in a year or two. That is highly unlikely in the classroom scenario.

    • gillian Hewitt says

      So agree Maria. Where I lived we had ex pat groups, mostly Danish, then British. The Danes did not speak one word of Spanish, considered themselves to be superior to just about everybody, and were hell bent on turning our small pueblo into a little Denmark. I point this out to showcase that it is not just the British who are a pain in Spain….One of the reasons why I loved Spain so much was because it was different…it was Spanish! And as you say Maria, you Spanish have been more than tolerant of foreigners coming into your country, and trying to turn it into their own….as you rightly say, if you do not like it here, go home – no one is going to stop you !!

  14. We lived in Rojales for 16 years I loved it when we first moved there but then the neighbours changed new neighbours brought load of
    dogs barking morning and night some Spainish are very noisy shouting banging doors throughout the night!
    The legal does get a bit confusing, we didn’t understand about our bank that we had to prove we were paying taxes in the UK that was in the December 2918 when we went down to our property in the April they had shut out account down and we had all our direct debit s and standing order stopped one was the SUMA which must be paid otherwise you could end up in court we were weeks away from having our electric an water being cut off….we had had enough, so we sold up after 16 years I think it could become more intense after Brexit, we have still got to close our bank account in April after we have paid our non residency tax and to pay our solicitor…..never again!!

  15. José Manuel Thank you dearly for your input I am glad to hear about the lack of crime compared to the south, “bad” roads do not scare me, I am from the west og Norway, even though it is a rich country it is not good at maintaining its roads. I will be aware of people trying to take advantage of me though, Norwegians are naive by nature, so we trust too easily. I am not a loud, abrasive and demanding tourist so I hope I will enjoy Spain and hopefully integrate by time. Moving to rural Lugo, but close to a few towns, I think I will do all right. I only look for peace and quiet, and maybe to buy a farm one day. Gracias José

  16. How do Spaniards treat Norwegians?
    I must admit I got a bit anxious reading this. My Spanish isn’t the best, but I will learn to speak at least good enough to be understood.
    I have rented a rural property in the Galicia region for a year.
    Any tips?

    • José Manuel says

      As a Galician I’d say you could indeed be seen as just another gullible foreigner from the north, but the kind of attitudes described in the post are more typical from more “touristy” regions where there are quite an important amount of foreigners. Rural Galicia is practically the opposite of that and I’d say the people there would be far more reserved. Another thing to note is that crime isn’t that of an issue here in the rural north, and that the roads aren’t nearly as bad as he makes it seem. The main problem would be indeed the lack of facilities, but as long as you live near a town it isn’t an issue. Of course all of this really depends of where is that property (the crowded and touristic Rías Baixas aren’t the same as the more isolated interior of Lugo or Ourense).
      Another tips are that generally people in the countryside tend to be quite old (most young people having moved to the cities) and that, while they know Spanish, they tend to mix it with Galician.
      Hope this helps!

      • I am British and in Galicia at the moment, nearer Santiago de Compostela but outside the towns.

        Basic Spanish is really needed, Galican is spoken a lot and it’s quite a bit different but people are brilliant, they make you understand what they are saying – some are very emotive but you’ll need that basic Spanish to get what they’re saying. Very few speak English, if they do, they don’t really want to speak it day to day.

        if you are in a farmhouse 20 minutes from a town, you are going to struggle – in winter rain can be bad, it is very cold and gas heating is as good as your insulation. If you go to one of the smaller towns, it will be difficult but if you want to learn, you will learn and some people might be happy to try learn some English from you as you learn Spanish. Internet on 3g/4g is available a good amount of Galicia, so no excuse to at least be trying on the translator apps while you get up to speed.

        Getting stuff installed/fixed/repaired is a different experience, people work their own schedules including major providers. Be prepared to wait.

        You’ll probably stick out like a sore thumb being Norwegian, I know I do, so be prepared for a few funny looks – it’s not rude, they may have never seen anyone like you before 🙂

        I wish my Spanish was better, it would make a massive difference. Enjoy the amazing culture, people, countryside and try your best to integrate.

  17. I totally agree with Nicks article. I came out to Spain two months ago with the intention of buying and living here. For two years I have been learning Spanish and preparing to move. But I get ignored in shops and bars even trying to speak Spanish. Everybody wants to rip me off, I am just seen as another stupid English man to rip off. The estate agents are terrible, you can not believe a single word they say and their fees, One agent wanted Euro 900 commision to rent a flat for 3 months. Just not worth my effort doing it for less was their comment. So now I just continue to rent in hotels. Lunch time in Spain lasts for every (3 hours). I have been to four car shops to buy a new car and because I turned up 15 minutes before lunch they would not talk to me, come back at 4pm. The housing estates are awful, broken roads and massive garden walls. I am near Benidorm and since November we get frosts nearly every night. And there are no road drains so yesterday after the rain the road was 10cm deep of water. Spain is also not right for me – Florida next year, they speak English and property is far cheaper.
    Colin wrote on 3 December 2019

    • Fl is Great you will get a warm welcome Lots of other parts of USA. Indonesia is very nice, I lost money in Spain years back Rude bank and have a blocked loo nobody would fix plumber never came would never visit it as a country again ! BIG WORLD out there Spain is backward did think it was safe guess crime on the up!

    • You’ve been here 2 months and you’re moaning like you are? Good riddance to you.

  18. I would like to say, Spain’s “expat” population (‘s) is made-up of many european countries (not only UK English) if you look at the bigger picture. Understandably, some of these migrating countries to Spain may hold a larger percentage to others, but let us be aware, all of these “expats-immigrants” to Spain are highly contributing financially to the country as spaniards are in “their’ adopted countries.

    Therefore, based upon the above earlier negative comment (Jose) – “be nice”, while your boat is being kept afloat! .

    • Couldn’t you get any more patronising? .. To be honest most of the foreigners in “costal” areas treat Spaniards like the “natives” in their way between the sun and their cheap beer. My parents and I were subjected to some language by holiday makers that I decided not to translate because I didn’t want to upset my parents. To suffer racism in your own country by a visitor / guest / foreigner should only be in history books and in Europe, it is a sport happly played by northen countries visiting .. how do you call it again? ah yes the PIGS countries. Are you telling me that I should be greatful to you for keeping my “boat” afloat? or else what? .. I spent 20 year of my life working and living in another country (with a very strong welfare system to which I was happily contributing with my taxes because I was living there) and never – ever -ever dared to think something like that for a second. Your words are the reflection of a superiority complex that we spaniards are only too used to and .. are meant to take it with “grace”? or else? .. Until you leave your superiority behind, you have proven to deserve those comments. Take them.

  19. Yea yea
    Great to see English people are going back to their country. We don’t want you in Spain. The English are just trouble in Spain. Loud, drunk, rude, and cocky. I’m glad you don’t like our country.Go Back to your little village in UK.
    You don’t deserve and understand Spain.
    Maybe your experience was your reflection.

    • Marion Carr says

      I was hoping to buy a property in Spain, looks like you don’t want the English in your country Jose?
      Or are you just a small minded minority?

      • Jose is the minority ONLY in that he actually came out and said so. My experience is that most Spaniards feel exactly as Jose, but are NOT honest and won’t say it to you out in the open. There is a small percentage of Spaniards who are open. But they are a very small percentage, and do not expect them to defend you or any other innocent person. Almost everywhere else in the world I’ve been has had people of higher moral quality. Spain is sun. Good for holiday, or for people who are also fundamentally selfish.

    • I do understand Spanish mentality, totally.

      Going back to England to get away from the greedy, “I’m a little Franco”, small minded, Franco/Civil war obsessed Spanish seems a good idea, just avoid the prevalent Chav culture and endless Hitler/WWII obsession when you get back. Staying in the ex-pat ghettos is probably a good option!

      I never want to meet a Spanish person from “the village” again, the most horrendous people I’ve ever come across.

    • Hey Cuba is great Spain is awful Cuba million times better canary better Spain Ulgy mountains ja ja ja

  20. Spain first!

    • What a load of rubbish this article is , you moved to the costa Del crime, it’s not called that for nothing.
      We have lived in Murcia for the last 7years where there are less brits more integration and prices about half of the costa Del Sol . Maybe if you had done more research you might have fared a lot better. You get out what you put in.

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